Revised Pyrrhic DBA Army List

The official DBA II/27 Pyrrhic 300BC-272BC army list for DBA is okay but:

  • I don’t like the fact that the list doesn’t allow for Galatian mercenaries when Pyrrhus returns to Greece in 274-272BC.
  • My impression is that Greek mercenaries from Alexander’s time onward were increasingly Thureophori, i.e. 4Ax in DBA terms.

Addressing these issues results in:

II/27 Pyrrhic

Arable. Ag: 4

  • (a) 300-281BC
    • 1 x 3Kn (Gen) [Xystophoroi]
    • 1 x 3Cv [Javelin armed Heavy Cavalry1]
    • 6 x 4Pk [Phalanx]
    • 2 x 4Sp [Mercenary or allied Greek Hoplites]
    • 2 x 2Ps [Archers, Slingers, Javelinmen]
  • (b) 280-275BC
    • 1 x 3Kn (Gen) [Xystophoroi]
      • or 3Cv (Gen) [Javelin armed Heavy Cavalry1]
    • 1 x 3Cv [Javelin armed Heavy Cavalry1]
      • or 2LH [Light Cavalry1]
    • 1 x 2LH [Light Cavalry1]
    • 1 x El
    • 4 x 4Pk [Phalanx, either Epiriot or Tarantine]
    • 2 x 4Sp [Mercenary, allied Greek or Italiot Hoplites]
    • 1 x 4Ax [Samnite, Lucanian or Bruttian Javelinmen]
    • 1 x 2Ps [Archers, Slingers, Javelinmen]
  • (c) 274-272BC
    • 1 x 3Kn (Gen) [Xystophoroi]
      • or 3Cv (Gen) [Javelin armed Heavy Cavalry1]
    • 1 x 3Cv [Javelin armed Heavy Cavalry1]
      • or 2LH [Light Cavalry1]
    • 1 x 2LH [Light Cavalry1]
    • 1 x El
    • 4 x 4Pk [Phalanx, either Epiriot or Tarantine]
    • 2 x 4Sp [Mercenary, allied Greek or Italiot Hoplites]
    • 1 x 4Ax [Samnite, Lucanian or Bruttian Javelinmen]
      • or 4Wb [Galatians]
    • 1 x 2Ps [Archers, Slingers, Javelinmen]

Notes:

(1) Cavalry can Epirot, Macedonian, Greek, Thessalian, Oscan, Acarnanian, Aitolian or Athamanian

This list corresponds to the following Field of Glory army lists:

  • Early Successor 323-280 (Immortal Fire)
  • Pyrrhic 280-272BC (Rise of Rome)

4 comments to Revised Pyrrhic DBA Army List

  • Nice lists. I do like that PB uses a higher proportion of Pk to other troops for successors. However, it would seem to me that Pyrrhus would not be able to re-arm the Tarantines with pikes. There were not ever any native pike formations on the Italian penisula. So I definitly agree with your 274-272 list. As an option, you might add 2X4Ax as an alternative to the 2x4Sp as more oscan types joining in the fray.

  • Steven Thomas

    John, at some point I’ll revisit this list. The proportion of Pikes is low because Pyrrhus had a lot of other troops in his army. Mostly allies and mercenaries. How the Taratines were armed under Pyrrhus is open to debate. Jeff Champion, in his recent book on Pyrrhus, mentions that the Taratines underwent a rigorous training regime and were attached to Epiriot units as part of this. That suggests, but does not confirm, they were equipped like their mentors. Lists (a) and (c) are in Greece. List (b) in Italy and Sicily. It is (b) that really should have more Italian allies – something that Champion mentions. I have also neglected to address my second niggle – the absence of mercenary Thureophori. Next time around.

  • This looks like a really great website run by folks who not only love history but want to make wargaming as realistic as possible. I haven’t played DBA very much and let’s face it there are no perfect rule sets. My major problem with DBA is, WHO SAYS ONE HAS TO BE LIMITED TO TWELVE ELEMENTS!!!

    With the wide array of troop types 12 elements in my mind can’t possibly cover all the different troops types involved in this era. The beauty of Successor armies is the different troops types available.

    When I say these glossy rule books packed with photos and overly complicated rules this tells me the authors make wargaming rules unnecessarily complicated in order to sell big expensive books.

    I say keep it real and keep it simple. We can write our own rules and put it one two or even two sheets for quick reference. When I wargame and have to continually consult graphs my eyes glaze over. This takes the fun out of what should be a fast-paced game.

    • Steven Thomas

      Yes, standard DBA is only 12 elements. That could be a problem. Or do what some folk have done and add on a points system and build armies of variable sizes.

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